Who does C404 vote for?

lol, it's not that, what you said though reminded me a a comedy sketch these impersonators did in Vegas, "Different Bushes", it was a parody of the old TV show "Different Strokes" with Bush sr. and jr. as the key cast members, was pretty funny

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Experience has nothing to do with making promises. Experience is an ally, but nobody has experience of being a president before they're elected, anyway. Obama has been in politics for a while; you can't say he just became a polician one year ago.

No matter who is elected, we could end up worse. Or maybe in our universe McCain is elected and Obama is elected in another universe, but both end up profitting.

Point being, "experience" really shouldn't scare you. You should ask your own question about John McCain - don't point it just at Obama. You should ask the question for the candidate of the Green Party, the Marxist Part, the Independents, the PSL Party - that question of "can he deliver it" needs to be asked of every politician, including Obama, but not only him.

Also, even if he "scares" you, why would you elect a person with whom you disagree with more...? I mean, I guess I see some logic in it due to your paranoia, but really... if I didn't like a guy but he promised to do all these things I agreed with, I'd probably vote for him. I'd think he's an asshole, but I would also think his propositions would help the nation - and hopefully he fulfills them.

It's not a question of experience. It's a question of politcal bullshitting. Who's doing it more? That, my friend, is the real question.

Obama has only been a senator for 2-4 years. Plus, I think we have to remember checks and balances. I mean, just cause Obama says he going to do things, doesn't mean that congress will agree with him, same thing with McCain.

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Yep, pretty much.

Was it you who asked Reptar what his opinion was of John McCain?

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	Werts wrote:
	Yep, pretty much. Was it you who asked Reptar what his opinion was of John McCain?

That would be Johnnymcwhatshisname.

I like Obama far, far more than McCain.

Obama wants to get the troops out of a country, out of a war, that we shouldn't even be in, Obama is also willing to sit through peace talks with any country, unconditionally.

He's gotten 200,000 Europeans to hold up the American flag, which would be difficult to do after George Bush's wonderful job. He may lack experience, but he's smart, can't say the same about George Bush, and our country isn't dead, he'll figure it out.

Now, John McCain, he's old, and if he dies in office who gets to be president? Sarah Pallin. Now, Sarah Pallin, she's not smart, she's admitted to the media that she doesn't know the first thing about being a vice president, much less a president. She's less experienced than Obama which basically ruins the theory of 'Obama is inexperienced, therefore he should not be president.' She wants to leave the choice of her daughter having a baby to her family, yet she wants to ban abortion?

McCain has announced that he is willing to prolong war indefinitely, or until we, 'win'.

All of this information was recently gotten from another forum, not word for word, but its the basics of it.

On a more personal note. With the troops back in America and all war funding gone, America will be able to have a bit of a chance to heal from debts.

Has anyone here ever played Roller Coaster Tycoon? You know when you buy too much? And you're, say, $-1,483,283 in debt? It's quite hard to regain all of that money, almost impossible, buying more doesn't help it, that's what we're doing right now, we're in debt, yet we're just wasting more money in a war we shouldn't even be involved in. This puts many once wealthy Americans in debt. I believe I've posted this here before, but my family used to be next to rich, with a large house, nice cars, an in-ground pool, all of the good stuff. This was before George Bush was before we went into war. Now, I live in a one bedroom apartment with my mother, I don't have a room, one bathroom, no air conditioning, a bitchy old lady downstairs who shoots herself up and starts screaming 'woohoo' at the top of her longs. Because we were overtaxed, and lost all of our money. Now we can hardly afford to live here. Just passing by the rents, selling our $500,000+ house for $300,000. When we get out of this war, gas prices will go down, taxes will go down, things will get better.

As Werts said; Experience is an ally, but even with a good ally, it doesn't mean you can win the war, in metaphorical terms.

You are aware that the government can, and has, just clear away all the debt, right? no paying of anythin, no trades, no nothing, just gone.

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	Xor_90 wrote:
	You are aware that the government can, and has, just clear away all the debt, right? no paying of anythin, no trades, no nothing, just gone.

Really, now? Does money have no value? What supports our money? Is it just paper? Is that it? That's ridiculous.

for starters, I'm speaking primarily on a nationwide level, not global, great depression, ring any bells? though on a global scale, debt between two countries is easily wiped away, when one declares war on the other, or any supporting nation.

second, as far as our moneys value nowadays, thats just about correct since the Federal Reserve did away with the gold standard.

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That's a terrible system. If money has no value, why are we taxed? Perhaps I'm uneducated in these areas, but if they can make their money pop up as just paper, why can't they pay it like that? Why must we be taxed and lose our money?

	Reptar wrote:
	That's a terrible system. If money has no value, why are we taxed? Perhaps I'm uneducated in these areas, but if they can make their money pop up as just paper, why can't they pay it like that? Why must we be taxed and lose our money?

Inflation?

	Reptar wrote:
	That's a terrible system. If money has no value, why are we taxed? Perhaps I'm uneducated in these areas, but if they can make their money pop up as just paper, why can't they pay it like that? Why must we be taxed and lose our money?

it only has no value in the sense that it no longer represents a physical agent, it still has all value that the populace as a whole places on it, once(if) you take econ in high school, it does make a bit more sense, starts verging into Social Contract theory and what not.

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I honestly don't fully understand this, so I'm just not going to question it until I do. So alright then.

Both Seem Like Great guys... but I would chose, Obama... because we seem to be adressing them by last names only... Twisted Evil

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